It seems the best guess why Biden and company are lying is to get reelected. I didn't want to vote for Trump because it seemed he was downplaying covids' threat, and dividing the country with election conspiracy lies just to get elected. So what do I do now? If Fetterman or any normal Republican with their head straight on the threats of Iran, Russia and China, I would vote for them. They aren't running.
Democrats want to stay in power and they will tell any and every lie that they believe will help them in the election. They will spew hatred on the innocent and smear every and any American into bankruptcy or prison to stay in the White House. They will encourage vicious anti-Semitism even in the most Jewish city in our country and allow their leftist supporters to vandalize and intimidate Jewish people without restriction for a few thousand votes in Michigan. They will destroy Israel and damage the USA in the pursuit. Democrats are not Americans. They are Democrats. You don't see this happening in Republican run states and cities, do you?
We're never going to save this decmocratic system if pundits don't start telling the truth. T'he UN report is based on a specific definition of famine, and is unrelated to whether people are starving. And while it MAY be true sufficient aid is reaching gaza, it cannot be distributed among gazans thanks largely to Israeli restrictions. And you claim Hamas lies, but so clearly do (and have) the Israeli's. And does it really matter if the number is 30,000 or 50,000? The photos coming out of gaza are ample proof of the wanton destruction occurring there. It's also worth remembering that had the Israelis not spent the last 30 years trying to squeeze the Palestinians out of Palestine, an attack such as occured last October would have been far less likely.
My friend, in order to claim with such a tone of confidence that any food shortfalls are the fault of the Israelis, you must address credible accounts of Hamas interfering with food distribution. And even with that, if you credit Hamas accounts on the issue as much or more as you do Israeli accounts of the whys and wherefores, you are not bringing a context-informed eye to the matter. As to the Israelis “squeezing” the Palestinians, just listing the books and scholarly articles from informed authors which refute that premise would push me past whatever word count limits might apply here. In all events, the point just made with respect to your first claim applies to the second. In other words, you have to convince people of the rightness of your point of view. None of that “squeezing” you so disapprove of.
Closer: one half of the Jews living in Israel today either fled violence Arab countries in 1948 and the years immediately following or are directly descended from same (however, in fairness, the violence employed by those Moroccan, Iraqi and other Arab “squeezers” who ethnically cleansed their country of Jews back in the day was more akin to the civilized conduct of Hamas supporters in the US nowadays than Hamas’ rather over-the-top barbarities committed in Israel last fall.
Second closer: In case this know-it-all commenter on food distribution in Gaza fancies himself as well an expert on the matter of Israel as an apartheid state, consider the following: 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab, 20% of the members of the Israeli parliament are Arab, 20% of Israeli doctors are Arab, and, interestingly, somewhere around 40 to 45% of Israeli pharmacists are, oy vey, Arabs. Again, you don’t have to agree with me. But disagree like a grown up.
David, I thank you for your considered comments, and appreciate the fact that you've proven my larger point. If we're ever going to understand any situaation, we need the facts and the nuances. I concur there are lots of "authoritative sources" who dispute that Israelis are trying to eject Palestinians, but when you look at the un-punished Israeli on Palestinian violence in the west bank, you have to question those authorities (and there are innumerable other verifiable incidents supporting the ejection claim, many of whom have been recorded by Israelis). I have no doubt that much of the harm suffered by Gazans results from the actions of Hamas, but clearly not all (Israel in fact had other approaches to dealing with the tunnels than trying to collapse them by destroying above-ground infrastructure). But the bottom line is that if we don't acknowledge that these problems are complex, and take the time to explore the nuances, we'll never have an accurate picture of what's happening. There are no wholly innocent parties on either side (except those on both sides who have no control). With a more nuanced exploration, hopefully we will do a better job of (a) educating our fellow citizens, and (b) crafting appropriate policies. Again, thanks for your response!
"The photos coming out of Gaza are ample proof. . ." This in a nutshell is how Hamas and its many assistants in the West fobs its absurdities off on media and through media many citizens. Photos are NEVER proof of anything. Certainly not photos taken by "photojournalists" in Gaza. Photos are in fact vastly MORE selective and ambiguous than even the least reliable written accounts.
Somehow I doubt that all of the western journalists, UN Reps, etc., are all trying to support Hamas and undermine Israel. Some significant portion, at least, have to be accurate shots from reputable, non-partisan journalists. If not, then facts and truth are gone forever, a people's democracy is utterly impossible, and we're all doomed to live under one form of authoritariansim or another.
You miss my point. It isn't a matter of what the photographers intend to photograph, though many of the Hamas affiliated journalists set up shots. It's that any photo is selective by nature. It excludes EVERYTHING except what is in its frame for one instant. Photos are by nature utterly ambiguous evidence. You cannot go by them. As for other sources of evidence, the UN itself has now drastically revised its death numbers for children and women, and even what they revised still leaves a lot unexplained. Israel is unique in the degree to which it seeks to avoid civilian deaths, certainly far more than the US did in Mosul, for example. The view that Israeli killing is "indiscriminate" is a total slander without any foundation.
Every death in Gaza since Oct 7, 2023 is the fault of Hamas and no one else. Hamas could stop this war immediately if they released the hostages, put down their weapons and turned in the murderers, rapists, child killers and kidnappers. Instead, they decry the chaos and death they brought upon the people of Gaza and will continue to do so. Any person or entity in the world who supports Hamas is killing the people in Gaza.
If Palestinians had not spent the last 30 years trying to kill al the Jews, the whole event would not have happened and Palestinians would be way better off!
Remember that Hamas has a charter that demands the Genocide of Jews.
So, do you think the destruction in Gaza is wanton?
You've looked at the pictures, read the comments, and now you can be an expert and determine the pointlessness of Israel's actions in Gaza.
Have you seen dozens of videos provided by the IDF, where dozens of rockets are fired directly from residential areas, and Israeli forces bomb them directly? Do you think that destroying rocket launchers, shooting at terrorists and ammunition is wanton?
Have you seen dozens of videos showing houses that were built as rocket launchers, bunkers for storing ammunition?
When these ammunition and rocket launchers explode because they cannot be evacuated, and these weapons will no longer kill people, do you think it is wanton?
Have you seen a video from a tank camera, where the tank fires at a building only after it sees a terrorist aiming an RPG at it?
Do you think this destruction is wanton? The fact that this terrorist will not kill anyone again and no one will shoot from this house is pointless?
You have seen videos of hundreds of tunnels used by terrorists. They are right in houses, under houses, under entire neighborhoods, under schools and hospitals. They contain tons of weapons and ammunition. Do you think their destruction is wanton?
I will tell you a secret. Any country that wants to protect its citizens from a terrible and cruel enemy sees the meaning and necessity of destroying the armed enemy, its infrastructure and any threat that the enemy poses.
For every fighter in the Israeli army, there are ten people who assess the situation, try to avoid unnecessary casualties and destruction, and sometimes do so at the cost of the lives of their citizens.
No country makes more efforts to do this than Israel.
They are obliged to defend their country, despite the fact that you consider their actions is wanton.
The Biden Administration is lying because they want to continue to weaken israel and bolster Iran. It’s as simple as that.
Lies that serve antisemitism and an attempt to keep Israel from demolishing Hamas
Amazingly, the AP analyzed Hamas data and, wait for it, found it was off. But of course crickets from the mainstream media.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-deaths-women-children-e258a4c14641978a00dfb957ce348957
It seems the best guess why Biden and company are lying is to get reelected. I didn't want to vote for Trump because it seemed he was downplaying covids' threat, and dividing the country with election conspiracy lies just to get elected. So what do I do now? If Fetterman or any normal Republican with their head straight on the threats of Iran, Russia and China, I would vote for them. They aren't running.
Democrats want to stay in power and they will tell any and every lie that they believe will help them in the election. They will spew hatred on the innocent and smear every and any American into bankruptcy or prison to stay in the White House. They will encourage vicious anti-Semitism even in the most Jewish city in our country and allow their leftist supporters to vandalize and intimidate Jewish people without restriction for a few thousand votes in Michigan. They will destroy Israel and damage the USA in the pursuit. Democrats are not Americans. They are Democrats. You don't see this happening in Republican run states and cities, do you?
We're never going to save this decmocratic system if pundits don't start telling the truth. T'he UN report is based on a specific definition of famine, and is unrelated to whether people are starving. And while it MAY be true sufficient aid is reaching gaza, it cannot be distributed among gazans thanks largely to Israeli restrictions. And you claim Hamas lies, but so clearly do (and have) the Israeli's. And does it really matter if the number is 30,000 or 50,000? The photos coming out of gaza are ample proof of the wanton destruction occurring there. It's also worth remembering that had the Israelis not spent the last 30 years trying to squeeze the Palestinians out of Palestine, an attack such as occured last October would have been far less likely.
My friend, in order to claim with such a tone of confidence that any food shortfalls are the fault of the Israelis, you must address credible accounts of Hamas interfering with food distribution. And even with that, if you credit Hamas accounts on the issue as much or more as you do Israeli accounts of the whys and wherefores, you are not bringing a context-informed eye to the matter. As to the Israelis “squeezing” the Palestinians, just listing the books and scholarly articles from informed authors which refute that premise would push me past whatever word count limits might apply here. In all events, the point just made with respect to your first claim applies to the second. In other words, you have to convince people of the rightness of your point of view. None of that “squeezing” you so disapprove of.
Closer: one half of the Jews living in Israel today either fled violence Arab countries in 1948 and the years immediately following or are directly descended from same (however, in fairness, the violence employed by those Moroccan, Iraqi and other Arab “squeezers” who ethnically cleansed their country of Jews back in the day was more akin to the civilized conduct of Hamas supporters in the US nowadays than Hamas’ rather over-the-top barbarities committed in Israel last fall.
Second closer: In case this know-it-all commenter on food distribution in Gaza fancies himself as well an expert on the matter of Israel as an apartheid state, consider the following: 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab, 20% of the members of the Israeli parliament are Arab, 20% of Israeli doctors are Arab, and, interestingly, somewhere around 40 to 45% of Israeli pharmacists are, oy vey, Arabs. Again, you don’t have to agree with me. But disagree like a grown up.
David, I thank you for your considered comments, and appreciate the fact that you've proven my larger point. If we're ever going to understand any situaation, we need the facts and the nuances. I concur there are lots of "authoritative sources" who dispute that Israelis are trying to eject Palestinians, but when you look at the un-punished Israeli on Palestinian violence in the west bank, you have to question those authorities (and there are innumerable other verifiable incidents supporting the ejection claim, many of whom have been recorded by Israelis). I have no doubt that much of the harm suffered by Gazans results from the actions of Hamas, but clearly not all (Israel in fact had other approaches to dealing with the tunnels than trying to collapse them by destroying above-ground infrastructure). But the bottom line is that if we don't acknowledge that these problems are complex, and take the time to explore the nuances, we'll never have an accurate picture of what's happening. There are no wholly innocent parties on either side (except those on both sides who have no control). With a more nuanced exploration, hopefully we will do a better job of (a) educating our fellow citizens, and (b) crafting appropriate policies. Again, thanks for your response!
Aid isn’t getting to Gazans because of Hamas- not because of Israel
"The photos coming out of Gaza are ample proof. . ." This in a nutshell is how Hamas and its many assistants in the West fobs its absurdities off on media and through media many citizens. Photos are NEVER proof of anything. Certainly not photos taken by "photojournalists" in Gaza. Photos are in fact vastly MORE selective and ambiguous than even the least reliable written accounts.
Somehow I doubt that all of the western journalists, UN Reps, etc., are all trying to support Hamas and undermine Israel. Some significant portion, at least, have to be accurate shots from reputable, non-partisan journalists. If not, then facts and truth are gone forever, a people's democracy is utterly impossible, and we're all doomed to live under one form of authoritariansim or another.
You miss my point. It isn't a matter of what the photographers intend to photograph, though many of the Hamas affiliated journalists set up shots. It's that any photo is selective by nature. It excludes EVERYTHING except what is in its frame for one instant. Photos are by nature utterly ambiguous evidence. You cannot go by them. As for other sources of evidence, the UN itself has now drastically revised its death numbers for children and women, and even what they revised still leaves a lot unexplained. Israel is unique in the degree to which it seeks to avoid civilian deaths, certainly far more than the US did in Mosul, for example. The view that Israeli killing is "indiscriminate" is a total slander without any foundation.
Every death in Gaza since Oct 7, 2023 is the fault of Hamas and no one else. Hamas could stop this war immediately if they released the hostages, put down their weapons and turned in the murderers, rapists, child killers and kidnappers. Instead, they decry the chaos and death they brought upon the people of Gaza and will continue to do so. Any person or entity in the world who supports Hamas is killing the people in Gaza.
Excuse making for terrorists is a bad deed.
No soup for you.
If Palestinians had not spent the last 30 years trying to kill al the Jews, the whole event would not have happened and Palestinians would be way better off!
Remember that Hamas has a charter that demands the Genocide of Jews.
So, do you think the destruction in Gaza is wanton?
You've looked at the pictures, read the comments, and now you can be an expert and determine the pointlessness of Israel's actions in Gaza.
Have you seen dozens of videos provided by the IDF, where dozens of rockets are fired directly from residential areas, and Israeli forces bomb them directly? Do you think that destroying rocket launchers, shooting at terrorists and ammunition is wanton?
Have you seen dozens of videos showing houses that were built as rocket launchers, bunkers for storing ammunition?
When these ammunition and rocket launchers explode because they cannot be evacuated, and these weapons will no longer kill people, do you think it is wanton?
Have you seen a video from a tank camera, where the tank fires at a building only after it sees a terrorist aiming an RPG at it?
Do you think this destruction is wanton? The fact that this terrorist will not kill anyone again and no one will shoot from this house is pointless?
You have seen videos of hundreds of tunnels used by terrorists. They are right in houses, under houses, under entire neighborhoods, under schools and hospitals. They contain tons of weapons and ammunition. Do you think their destruction is wanton?
I will tell you a secret. Any country that wants to protect its citizens from a terrible and cruel enemy sees the meaning and necessity of destroying the armed enemy, its infrastructure and any threat that the enemy poses.
For every fighter in the Israeli army, there are ten people who assess the situation, try to avoid unnecessary casualties and destruction, and sometimes do so at the cost of the lives of their citizens.
No country makes more efforts to do this than Israel.
They are obliged to defend their country, despite the fact that you consider their actions is wanton.
Last sentence. Terror apologist.
thanks, Adolph